I met Marcia once and worked with her and a group of three or four other Waldorf teachers who were in training at the Waldorf Institute in Detroit, Michigan. I am not sure of the exact dates, but I believe it was either late in 1974 or early in 1975. Between six months to one year after working with Marcia, I was working at the Waldorf Institute bookstore when I received a phone call from Kathleen Kennedy. At the time, I did not know her Hollywood connection. I thought she was a student interested in attending the Waldorf Institute. I just knew in passing that she knew Marcia Lucas.